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jaya_kampuchea
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US position on the 1 China Policy
US plans huge show of force in Pacific

Straits Times | June 30 2004

HONG KONG - The United States is planning a massive show of force in the Pacific Ocean near China to register a point with Beijing.

In an exercise codenamed Operation Summer Pulse 04, it is expected to arrange for an unprecedented seven aircraft carrier strike groups (CSGs) to rendezvous in waters a safe distance away from the Chinese coastline - but still within striking distance - after mid-July.

This will be the first time in US naval history that it sends seven of its 12 CSGs to just one region.

According to a Department of Defence statement, Summer Pulse is to test out a new Fleet Response Plan (FRP) aimed at enhancing the American Navy's combat power and readiness in a time of crisis.

The FRP calls for the despatching of six 'forward deployed' or 'ready to surge' CSGs to a trouble spot within 30 days, and an additional two within 90 days.

Although the statement does not say where the seven CSGs will exercise, the Status of the Navy website said the USS Carl Vinson, Abraham Lincoln, John C Stennis and Kitty Hawk were in the Pacific Ocean as of yesterday.

The USS Enterprise and Harry Truman are in the Atlantic Ocean while USS George Washington is in the Persian Gulf.

According to a posting on Sina.com, an influential website in China, the signs point to a gathering of all seven CSGs in the Pacific.

Sources in Beijing say China's reading is that Summer Pulse is being mounted with it as the target audience, a suspicion reinforced by reports that Taiwanese forces are slated to join in the drill.

Clearly, given Beijing's repeated warning that it will use force, as a last resort and whatever the cost, to stop Taiwanese independence, the US feels it needs to send Beijing a message.

From past deployment patterns, the US usually despatches one CSG to a trouble spot as a reminder of its presence.

It did so several times in the past when tension was high in the Taiwan Strait.

It sends two to indicate serious concern, as was the case when China test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.

In a combat situation, it deploys three to four, which was what it did in the Gulf War in the early 1990s and the recent Iraqi war.

But never before has it sent in peace time seven CSGs to the same theatre.

The implications for China are grave.

According to Kanwa Defence News, which specialises in Chinese military matters, Beijing can cope with just one CSG currently.

'But in five to 10 years, it can certainly take on seven,' said Mr Chang Hong-yi, head of Kanwa, in an interview with The Straits Times.

'China's military potential is enormous and in terms of military technology, the gap with the US is closing fast,' he added.

However, a Chinese military source who declined to be identified is more sanguine.

'Even now, China can easily take on two CSGs,' he said but conceded that there was no way it could face seven all at the same time.

This means that if China has to wage war over Taiwan, it has to be able to land and seize control of the island within the first 30 days.

Otherwise, under the FRP, six CSGs may well arrive to join in the battle.

'All this leaves China with no choice but to start and end the war with lightning speed,' said the source.

Politically, Summer Pulse is likely to be seen by many Chinese as naked intimidation.

'This is gunboat diplomacy in the 21st century,' the source remarked, adding that it would remind the Chinese people of their century-long deep humiliation by Western powers - and put Sino-US relations at peril.

http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/063004showofforce.htm
July 10th, 2004 4:31am
jaya_kampuchea
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are the US opposed to 1 china policy or support it? bush said not too long ago that he is against independence for taiwan. why are 7 US aircraft carriers in striking distance in the pacific? i think war with china is inevitable.. it will come pretty soon.. china has buffed up their military and they are ready for anything..
July 10th, 2004 4:33am
PRINCE
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There may be tension at times with China as China is the only other super power other than the U.S. China and the U.S. will at times flex their muscles, but there will be no war as both countries needs one another economically.
July 10th, 2004 5:30am
jaya_kampuchea
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quote:
Originally posted by PRINCE
There may be tension at times with China as China is the only other super power other than the U.S. China and the U.S. will at times flex their muscles, but there will be no war as both countries needs one another economically.

the US knows china's intention of trying to unite taiwan with mainland china. they want to be a regional superpower and soon a world power. having taiwan will benefit china greatly. modern military technology,modern economic development,etc. from the looks of it, having the US intervene in china and taiwan's affair is sort of ridiculous. the gap between military superiority of US isn't that big anymore considering china is upgrading their military and soon will rival that of US military and maybe even surpass the US in military technology within a decade or so. US needs to remained cautious of china's action.

[Message last modified 07-09-2004 09:59pm by jaya_kampuchea]
July 10th, 2004 5:58am
PRINCE
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quote:
Originally posted by jaya_kampuchea
quote:
Originally posted by PRINCE
There may be tension at times with China as China is the only other super power other than the U.S. China and the U.S. will at times flex their muscles, but there will be no war as both countries needs one another economically.

the US knows china's intention of trying to unite taiwan with mainland china. they want to be a regional superpower and soon a world power. having taiwan will benefit china greatly. modern military technology,modern economic development,etc. from the looks of it, having the US intervene in china and taiwan's affair is sort of ridiculous. the gap between military superiority of US isn't that big anymore considering china is upgrading their military and soon will rival that of US military and maybe even surpass the US in military technology within a decade or so. US needs to remained cautious of china's action.
[Message last modified 07-09-2004 09:59pm by jaya_kampuchea]


The US is always cautious towards communist countries. China's military technology can match the US only if China's espionage program is successful. Another words Chinese technology wether military or commercial will remain inferior unless it's stolen technology.

The US should intervene in Taiwan because the US sees Taiwan as a sovereign nation. China is bullying Taiwan and the US is only playing the role of a big brother.
July 10th, 2004 6:09am
jaya_kampuchea
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US interests
quote:
The US is always cautious towards communist countries. China's military technology can match the US only if China's espionage program is successful. Another words Chinese technology wether military or commercial will remain inferior unless it's stolen technology.

The US should intervene in Taiwan because the US sees Taiwan as a sovereign nation. China is bullying Taiwan and the US is only playing the role of a big brother.

what is there for the US that they should support taiwan in the fight for independence? i think if US does get involve if a war breaks out between china and taiwan, it probably would be for the purpose of having their influence in that region and keeping china in check. not so much of trying to keep taiwan as a soverign nation. US knows china is becoming a world threat and they still have advanced military technology.. they wouldn't want to go to war with china when china can equally match the US in military technology or probably even surpass it. china is getting more and more aggressive on taiwan and war is inevitable.
July 10th, 2004 6:19am
PRINCE
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quote:
Originally posted by jaya_kampuchea
quote:
The US is always cautious towards communist countries. China's military technology can match the US only if China's espionage program is successful. Another words Chinese technology wether military or commercial will remain inferior unless it's stolen technology.

The US should intervene in Taiwan because the US sees Taiwan as a sovereign nation. China is bullying Taiwan and the US is only playing the role of a big brother.

what is there for the US that they should support taiwan in the fight for independence? i think if US does get involve if a war breaks out between china and taiwan, it probably would be for the purpose of having their influence in that region and keeping china in check. not so much of trying to keep taiwan as a soverign nation. US knows china is becoming a world threat and they still have advanced military technology.. they wouldn't want to go to war with china when china can equally match the US in military technology or probably even surpass it. china is getting more and more aggressive on taiwan and war is inevitable.


Chinese fighter jet bumps into US surveillance jet in mid-air off the coast of China, Chinese fighter crashes in flames, US jet lands safely on an island. Chinese technology what?
July 10th, 2004 6:25am
jaya_kampuchea
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^right now china can't match US military but within a decade or so it can or will.. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.. just look at china today...
July 10th, 2004 6:30am
PRINCE
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^^ So your logic is that Chinese technology will improve and US technology will be stagnant.

That's the only way that Chinese technology will catch up.

July 10th, 2004 6:45am
jaya_kampuchea
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well, looking at the current pace of chinese economy and military development, it is likely that they'll catch up with the modern technology and probably even surpass the US.
July 10th, 2004 7:13am
vatblock
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if there was ever a World War 3 I think it would be:

United States, Britain, Isreal, France, Canada, Japan, South Korea, India, and other European countries...

vs.

China, Russia, North Korea, most of the Middle Eastern countries...

Another war by the end of the century seems about right. It is in human nature to war...
July 11th, 2004 1:32am
KomLostBong
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So?? I would like to have a question for you al as: If the USA VS the China for that case. Which one would you all think is going to be WIN in the battle???...It might has a lot of damage, huh??
July 11th, 2004 7:46pm
   
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